In this week’s episode of That Podcast in Hutch features Rep. Jim Gartner, from the 53rd House District in Topeka. But we talk more about the plight of the Ornate Box Turtle – the state Reptile of Kansas – than anything else. I’m not going to spoil the episode for you – but if you listen, I guarantee you’ll learn more about the world and more about the Ornate Box Turtle than you ever expected. 
One of the things I do enjoy about the Kansas Legislature is the opportunity to learn new things about the world. And in my conversation with Rep. Gartner, I am certain that you’ll learn something you didn’t know before. There’s a whole underground world that involves this innocent reptile that you probably don’t know a thing about – and that’s how some legislation comes to fruition, even if it seems bizarre to the outside world.